Episode 123 — Spoken Word and Public Speaking with Huwa


To me. It's best you start not so perfect. So then you have something to strive for. — @SpokenPodcast #PublicSpeaking #2MTT #SpokenWord Click To Tweet

2-Minute Tip: Just put yourself out there


Getting past intense nerves can be challenging, but there comes a point where you just have to do it. Just acknowledge your nerves and stage fright and do it anyway. If things don’t go well, the world won’t end, and (for most of us) no one will die. So just get up on stage, nerves and all, and just do it.


How can you give yourself the best chance for success? It’s no secret — practice. Prepare and practice. The more you do that, the better you’ll be able to focus on what matters — the audience and the message.


Afterall, it’s not about you.


It's best if I go on stage nervous and then get comfortable, you know? — @SpokenPodcast #PublicSpeaking #2MTT #SpokenWord Click To Tweet

Post Tip Discussion: Meet Okoyomoh Egbekhuwa — or simply Huwa


“You know what’s great about hitting rock bottom? There’s only one way to go, and that’s up!”

— Buster Moon, Sing

Okoyomoh Egbekhuwa — or simply Huwa — is a Chemistry student, spoken word artist, and podcaster living in Nigeria. We live in an amazing time where technology let’s us have conversations like this across the world.


Spoken Word is a performance genre where poetry meets public speaking meets story telling. Rhythm and timing are critical to success. A lot of the lessons Huwa learned as she grew as a performer will likely resonate with other speakers today.


And I have to confess my own ignorance here, This is a genre I wasn’t really familiar with before this conversation. I love getting to learn stuff on the show.


Spoken word to me is being able to tell a story in a style that is unique to you, being able to tell that story — people aren't exactly listening to you because of the story you're telling. There's a lot of emphasis on how you tell… Click To Tweet

Bio


Huwa selfie in a car

Okoyomoh Egbekhuwa, or just Huwa is a performance poet and podcaster from Nigeria, West Africa. She’s been speaking since she was eleven years old at debates and in church. She started performing as a spoken word artiste three years ago and realized how underrated it is as an art so she started up a podcast, called The Spoken World, inviting performance poets, authors and enthusiasts from around the world to share their stories as expressed in literary arts.


Recently, she’s learnt that the podcast can be so much more as it involves stories that reveal the culture, traditions and politics of individuals across the globe.


I joined the Lectors in the church and I was reading in front of the congregation, and I did that every day for every week until I could stand on my own in front of an audience. — @SpokenPodcast #PublicSpeaking #2MTT #SpokenWord Click To Tweet

Sing


Huwa quoted the movie Sing in our conversation. It’s an animated film about animals performing in a singing competition. A lot of the stories are about dealing with nerves, being true to yourself, and getting out there to share your art.


Here’s the trailer:



When I started reading in the church, I wasn't perfect the first day. I wasn't perfect the second day. But as I continued to practice, it became something that I was really good at. I was almost the best. — @SpokenPodcast… Click To Tweet

The Danger of the Single Story


The Danger of the Single Story is the risk we have of falling into ignorance. In the context of our discussion, we touched on how many folks in the US and elsewhere have a limited perception of life in Africa. One narrative about the continent often dominates our perception.


Storytelling is a great way to connect with an audience. As an audience member its also important to seek out more stories from speakers and artists who have a different background. It’s not about creating an artificial debate between 2 view points — 2 or more viewpoints and be different without being in opposition to one another.


Even with my relative ignorance I think it’s safe to say that life in Nigeria is very different from life in Egypt or life in Lesotho. And it’s fair to say that life in Lagos is probably very different from life in Yola (and yes, I did have to pull up a map).


And that’s the danger of the single story or narrative. It makes it way too easy to make assumptions about a wide swath of the Earth and its people.


It’s not just about geopolitics and cultural diversity, though. As speakers, how many of us have gone into a company, or even a department within our own company, with a narrative in mind about the people there? What do you think you know about the internal culture of Amazon or Microsoft or Starbucks? These are organizations with tens of thousands of employees and contractors. The single story in our minds about organizations will impact how we prepare and speak with them, even though that story may only apply to a part of the group.


And even if it applies to most of the organization, is your audience within that organization the group that story applies to? And do you think the same story you have about a company as a whole applies equally to the legal department, the marketing department, and the C-Suite? Probably not.


And let’s talk about individuals. What is the single story you have about someone who’s had a stroke? Is it the 86 year old retiree in the nursing home? Or is it someone like Luke Perry or Sharon Stone? Or do you think about the freelance blogger and podcaster helping folks become more effective speakers in as little as 2 minutes a week?


Stories help us understand the world. They help us connect with one another and pass along history, values, lessons, inspiration and community. There’s nothing wrong with stories.


The danger is in letting a single story about our audience or millions and billions of people become the sole way we see that aspect of the world.


So seek out and listen to more stories.


If there was no place for me to join, I was going to create a space for myself and for others to come join it. — @SpokenPodcast #PublicSpeaking #2MTT #SpokenWord Click To Tweet

Names


When Huwa and I were setting up the interview, she also emailed me an MP3 of her pronouncing her full name ( Okoyomoh Egbekhuwa) for me. This was great because it gave me an opportunity to practice listen to the correct version again and again.


If you have a name that is difficult to pronounce — or than might be difficult for someone from a different culture to pronounce, consider send a recording of it in advance to whomever may be introducing you at an event.


And if you’re the person doing the introduction, make an effort to learn to pronounce what may be for you a challenging name. You want to get it right because names are so important and they tie into so much emotional stuff. Getting a person’s name right is a sign of respect. And so I hope I did well by Huwa’s name.


If you become perfect at something, always strive to get better. If you don't think you can get any better, leave it and do something else. — @SpokenPodcast #PublicSpeaking #2MTT #SpokenWord Click To Tweet

Links


The Spoken World Website

https://thespokenworldpodcast-com.webnode.com/

The Spoken World on Twitter

https://twitter.com/spokenpodcast

Huwa on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/thespokenworld/

Spoken Word on Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoken_word

Huwa’s Email Newsletter

https://mailchi.mp/07f2853d15f1/thespokenworld

Spoken World Podcast on RadioPublic

https://play.radiopublic.com/the-spoken-world-podcast-WJ9QMB

Spoken World Podcast on PocketCasts

https://pca.st/59Ai

Spoken World Podcast on Apple Podcasts

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-spoken-world-podcast/id1416359054?mt=2

Spoken World Podcast on Google Podcasts

https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy80Y2UzYjEwL3BvZGNhc3QvcnNz

Spoken World Podcast on Spotify

https://open.spotify.com/show/6lpOymOxMa7vZ59gpq08tx

Spoken World Podcast on CastBox

https://castbox.fm/channel/id1381569

Spoken World Podcast on Overcast

https://overcast.fm/itunes1416359054/the-spoken-world-podcast

Spoken World Podcast on Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/anchor-podcasts/the-spoken-world-podcast

Spoken World Podcast on Breaker

https://www.breaker.audio/the-spoken-world-podcast

Spoken World Podcast on Podbean

https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/95f92-7e247/The-Spoken-World-Podcast

Kerri Ruttenberg on 2-Minute Talk Tips

http://2minutetalktips.com/Court

Denise Vaughan on 2-Minute Talk Tips

http://2MinuteTalkTips.com/Denise

Hilary Billings on 2-Minute Talk Tips

http://2MinuteTalkTips.com/Hilary

Tim Garber on 2-Minute Talk Tips (Part 1)

http://2minutetalktips.com/2017/02/28/episode-010-parallel-structure-and-tim-garber-part-1/

Tim Garber on 2-Minute Talk Tips (Part 2)

http://2minutetalktips.com/2017/03/07/episode-011-record-yourself-and-tim-garber-part-2/

Jon Clarke on 2-Minute Talk Tips (Running a Panel)

http://2minutetalktips.com/2017/04/18/episode-017-plan-to-punt-and-how-to-run-a-panel/

Jon Clarke on 2-Minute Talk Tips (Comedy, Advertising, and rock)

http://2minutetalktips.com/2017/01/10/episode-003-skip-the-opening-joke-and-meet-jon-clarke/


If it's not a crazy vision, if it's not something crazy, I don't think it's worth doing. — @SpokenPodcast #PublicSpeaking #2MTT #SpokenWord Click To Tweet

Call to Action


  • Check out the links to Huwa’s podcast and Instagram above.
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You can't keep being, you know, scared how long are you going to be terrified off this? You're going to have to use this sometime. You know, it's a skill everyone has to learn at some point. — @SpokenPodcast #PublicSpeaking #2MTT… Click To Tweet

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